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Title: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on May 13, 2016, 01:52:31 pm
Hi All,

Decided to create a topic, for progress of my yet untilted 2016 Ball Machine.

There is a preview video here:



Currently has 4 networks, with 3 more planned.
When finished will have 32 paths.
Build time July 2015 - Present.
Estimated pieces so far: 40,000

It currently has 5 new sorting mechanisims.
6 New lifts.

here is a link to the photo album:

http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/smunt93/profile/

Any questions just ask :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on May 13, 2016, 11:48:24 pm
That thing is quite big, nice! :o
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on May 14, 2016, 10:53:59 am
Looking great :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on July 01, 2016, 01:45:53 pm
Latest preview video!

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on July 01, 2016, 06:06:26 pm
Latest preview video!


That is seriously looking extremely impressive! Much better than my BM's XD I'm excited to see where this goes :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Netchman on July 03, 2016, 07:34:35 am
Looks great. Rotating tower is especially eye-catching!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on July 03, 2016, 01:00:54 pm
That rotating tower does look super-awesome indeed!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on July 04, 2016, 03:03:19 pm
Cheers guys!

I will try and upload a more detailed preview video of the rotating lift. Its taken me 3 iterations and 5 years to get it near-perfect! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on July 07, 2016, 07:02:14 pm
Here is a better video of just the rotating lift!

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on July 07, 2016, 10:17:02 pm
looking quite awesome!

I have a question concerning the exit: how do you make sure the ball always lands on the track, i couldn't spot a gare mechanism, but maybe I missed it?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on July 07, 2016, 11:06:39 pm
I guess you mean at the top?  There is a rail that stops the ball falling off between the 4 exits currently, (although in theory could be as much as 20 exits). It uses orange Flexi rods, its a little bit hard to see the contrast in the video.
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: GWorks on July 07, 2016, 11:22:24 pm
Mostly impressive!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on July 07, 2016, 11:25:06 pm
I guess you mean at the top?  There is a rail that stops the ball falling off between the 4 exits currently, (although in theory could be as much as 20 exits). It uses orange Flexi rods, its a little bit hard to see the contrast in the video.
Ah, yes, I did mean at the top, that makes sence ^.^
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on September 18, 2016, 05:21:17 pm
Apologies for the lack of progress! But im nearly finished.

I have 4 paths left to finish!

Looking like its going to have 13 lifts, 29 tracks, plus 4 sub tracks. All arranged over 4 networks.  :D

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Shadowman on September 18, 2016, 05:46:58 pm
That looks like one huge machine, nice job!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on September 18, 2016, 06:17:29 pm
This is looking great and huge! Can't wait for the final thing! :D
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Post by: www139 on September 18, 2016, 10:30:11 pm
That's quite impressive! Looking forward to seeing it coompleted! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on September 19, 2016, 05:28:49 pm
Oh wow that's looking stunning! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on September 30, 2016, 12:02:22 pm
So close to completion now, just 1 main path left!

Oh and there was more than 4000 of these before i started. Not many left now :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on September 30, 2016, 05:20:15 pm
Excited for the result! ;D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on September 30, 2016, 06:06:53 pm
Here is a picture of the rotating chain lift, or should i say where it should go. I had to remove it to strengthen the track it sits on and also get behind to fit some of the paths :)
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: www139 on September 30, 2016, 07:18:46 pm
That looks insane! :O
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on October 01, 2016, 11:19:39 am
The picture isn't showing for me :(
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on October 17, 2016, 02:14:44 pm
Finishing touches now!

Final dimensions are 2.2 M wide, 2.4 M Deep, and 2.4 M high. Its near impossible to photo in one shot!

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: www139 on October 17, 2016, 05:53:25 pm
Wow! That's looking awesome!!!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: mathsboy314 on October 17, 2016, 10:31:16 pm
Awesome! It looks like you can walk into it!
Is the view better from inside?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on October 18, 2016, 09:30:45 am
Hi yes it is! I designed it that way so every element can be clearly seen :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: GWorks on October 18, 2016, 06:08:27 pm
Hi yes it is! I designed it that way so every element can be clearly seen :D

Great looking machine, can't wait for the video :D Nice that you can walk inside!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on October 19, 2016, 05:14:58 pm
Loving it!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on October 20, 2016, 04:57:20 pm
Found a way to get a photo of it, using a fish eye lense! Im going to get a new camera/video camera for the final photos/video.

On a side note, i am going to make a video of the entire machine as normal. But i am also thinking of uploading a series of videos talking through some of the elements and the design principles behind the machine, what to do people think?

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on October 20, 2016, 11:10:07 pm
That is some huge machine, looking forward to the video!
Hi yes it is! I designed it that way so every element can be clearly seen :D
I did that with Dysphoria! That was pretty complex for me, required quite some thinking for positioning things. Did you find that to be a challenge, too?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on October 21, 2016, 10:31:03 am
Yeah i did, there is a few elements that are still hidden however. There is a lot of things attached with ball joints to allow for maximum flexibility in positioning, i have elements at loads of different angles rather than just the usual 90 or 45 degrees. The only trouble is now some of the elements are not as durable as i would like :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on October 23, 2016, 06:31:19 pm
New preview video!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: GWorks on October 23, 2016, 11:51:17 pm
Nice!
The first K'NEX ball machine that my girlfriend saw, she's amazed! (and so am I)
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: mathsboy314 on October 24, 2016, 01:12:22 am
Does the element at 0:46 ever hit you on the head while you're walking into the machine?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on October 24, 2016, 08:55:17 am
It could yes! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on November 12, 2016, 10:01:55 pm
Trailer now up!

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on November 12, 2016, 10:37:18 pm
This is looking amazing!
How do you use the old BBF balls with the holes togeather with the big air ball tower lift which only works with the bigger balls without holes?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on November 12, 2016, 10:39:56 pm
There is a splitter at the bottom that sorts the two different ball sizes!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Lexi Knex on November 12, 2016, 10:45:58 pm
wow ! i am excited to see the final product  :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Shadowman on November 13, 2016, 12:30:19 am
That looks great! I've never seen the use of an instruction booklet like that, haha.
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: mathsboy314 on November 13, 2016, 01:18:57 am
That's a lot of gears! Is it all powered by one motor?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on November 13, 2016, 09:39:28 am
No it uses 5 mains motors, the big air ball tower motor, and then 2 smaller battery powered motors.
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on November 13, 2016, 10:02:33 am
Really innovative ideas  ;D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on January 10, 2017, 11:26:23 am
Going to spend all weekend filming! Then next week i am moving house, moving the model as well :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Linkin_J_Knex on January 10, 2017, 05:19:35 pm
Good luck with that! ;D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: TheKnexGuy on January 10, 2017, 05:47:19 pm
WOW!! Your ball machines are big and awesome!!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: www139 on January 10, 2017, 07:42:28 pm
Wow that looks insanely awesome! Hopefully it won't get wreaked when you move... :P
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on January 21, 2017, 09:30:41 am
Last preview before i upload the final video :D

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on January 21, 2017, 05:13:15 pm
Again, your stuff is just amazing!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on February 01, 2017, 12:09:00 am
Editing is slow work.... :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: TheKnexGuy on February 01, 2017, 12:48:49 am
Wow smunt93, your ball machines are AMAZING! Great job!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on February 03, 2017, 02:32:27 pm
Last preview before i upload the final thing!
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on February 03, 2017, 03:52:12 pm
Looking awesome as always! Can't wait for the final thing ^.^
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: www139 on February 03, 2017, 03:52:41 pm
Wow! Looks amazing! Now I'm really excited for the video! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on February 12, 2017, 11:40:34 pm
Coming soon.....

Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: Sorunome on February 14, 2017, 12:12:59 pm
Stop teasing us aaaaaaah I want the final video! ^^
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: TheKnexGuy on February 20, 2017, 12:02:29 am
Stop teasing us aaaaaaah I want the final video! ^^
Your not the only one. Are you about done with the vid of it?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on February 20, 2017, 08:22:56 am
I have finished editing the video but not the soundtrack. I wanted to compose an original score but been too busy with university work at the moment. There is an-listed version of the video on youtube without music if you cant wait any longer :P ?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: www139 on February 28, 2017, 11:51:56 pm
Yes, please share it! I'll probably wait till the official video (because custom music always adds a lot to a video), but I think certain people *caugh caugh* @Random_Builder @Sorunome  *caugh caugh* won't be able to wait... :P
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on May 16, 2017, 03:42:56 pm
:D
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Post by: TheKnexGuy on May 16, 2017, 06:00:02 pm
Can you get a link to the vid?
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on May 16, 2017, 06:04:24 pm
Yeah i am just waiting for my painfully slow internet to upload the final video! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: GWorks on May 16, 2017, 07:59:15 pm
Well if the vid is 23 minutes o.O
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on May 16, 2017, 08:17:58 pm
It will be worth it! :D
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on May 16, 2017, 09:43:40 pm
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: GWorks on May 16, 2017, 11:08:19 pm
I've just sat through your complete video and now it's comment time. That means I'm going to watch it again ;)


1. The sheer size of that thing, wow.
2. Great explenatory shot with the colour/black & white to indicate networks. > Immediate tip: If you make photo's that you know will be used in your video: Use the 16:9 ratio and not 4:3 or 3:2. This will avoid the black fields around the picture when it's in the video.
3. 0:52 the first cool music track starts. Makes me happy!
4. 1:56 holy shit that rotating lift. Well thought out and one of it's kind I'd say. Cool music continues btw.
5. 2:27 I see that another person figured out you can attach 2 rod ends with a y-clip. You'll see it back in a future model of me.
6. 2:37 Small detail: Love how the ball spins
7.  Q: 3:31 where does that ball come from? Nice that you've implemented a path ON THAT SAME ROTATING LIFT o.O
8. 3:42: K'nex Big Ball Factory booklet! woo
9: Q: 4:10 Did you buy extra panels for that path or did you have them laying around?
10: 4:34 Use my universal joint! It's more compact, haha. Second good piece of music, btw. Reminds me of Daft Punk.
11. 6:29 The moment I saw it: "Whaat! he used a clover leaf looping thing!?" Amazing, seems to fail pick up balls sometimes, tho.
12. 7:46 Q1: How do you get the chain so tight? Q2: What is that K-Force trigger doing there?
13. 8:07 Music flaw: similar piece starts again and stops after a few seconds. Third music piece I like less.
14. 9:51 Cool switching mechanism between lifts! works very well I believe!
15. 10:38 a moving loop! who thought of that!
16. 11:05 Nice in-between shot of the machine working.
17. 11:19 :O other balls and the Big Air! Q: How does he do that? Is it a separate network? (question will be answered) #Music!
18. 16:03 Seems a simple thing to do, but may be harder than it seems
19. 16:14 Random Roaring Basilisk head!
20. 22:00 Cool extra use of this ferris wheel!
21: 22:43 and question #17 answered! 


Great machine! You may very well be proud of it :)
Title: Re: New Knex Ball Machine
Post by: smunt93 on May 17, 2017, 12:03:51 am
First of all, thank you for all the feedback.

4. Yeah, indeed i built one previously, then made 2 more prototypes before committing to the design -> it is clever because it uses just one motor :D
7. it drops down from the platform onto the rotating lift, then through it, and through the structure. It was hard to film!
9. Do you mean the yellow triangle things - if so i purchased them from knex user groups at 1p each :D (thinking they would have some use)
10. Yes, will do in future!
11. Yes, it has to have one behind it to push it up against the lifting mechanism.
12. Blue spacers and luck - and the kforce is just in shot for some reason, was just to place to put it!
14. It locks a differential which causes the lift to turn, otherwise, the open diff will take the path of least resistance and not turn the lift.
15. Me! I have a previous version in my machine X
17. They share some paths.
18. It uses a rubber band to ensure all of the exit path is taught. It serves a very useful purpose in that it tells me if the tower is still perfectly straight (otherwise it wont work)!
19. It was stuck on the tower but fell off during filming!

Hope that answers your questions :D